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Why I keep eBay’s Best Offer option manual for my vintage and unique items

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Last Updated July 27, 2009

By Cliff Aliperti
I’d held off writing this over the weekend in anticipation of the big eBay changes this morning, but since my first impression of the changes are that they’re harmless I figured I’d return to the topic I’d originally wanted to cover. eBay’s Best Offer and its use on vintage and/or unique items.

Best Offer is probably my favorite eBay feature, though I’ve still found myself questioning the way I use it sometimes. The main thing I’ve asked myself, and often others out loud, is should I automate the process to save time:

Add Best Offer to your listings and turn shoppers into buyers
Add auto-decline / auto-accept – Save time with auto-decline and auto-accept. This feature will automatically turn down offers that are below your minimum price or accept offers are within your preferred price range. You’ll still need to manually reply to offers outside of these limits. Remember, you can adjust these settings at any time.

I’ve finally decided my answer to that question is no, which conveniently leaves me without a listing to edit, but at the same time is, I believe, the correct answer.

If you’ve been involved in the world of antiques and collectibles before coming to eBay, or other online venues, you’ll find that Best Offer brings a bit of old real world practice to your ecommerce presence. I can recall many a Sunday where a buyer would stroll past my table at a baseball card show with an offer well below my marked price, to which I’d respond with a number close enough to retail to cause him to walk away without a word. But perhaps I’d see this customer two or three more times throughout the day, the dance continuing with the numbers coming closer to one another until finally, with the clock creeping in on closing time, we’d close the deal.

On eBay, of course, this can be strung out over several days, and in the end the seller has to realize that there is less of a chance of your potential customer returning to the online dance simply because it is so much easier to walk away–so if you’re going to counter the original offer with hopes of actually turning the sale you’re going to want to make it a strong counter. But that strategy is another story, one I’ve actually told before, this time around I’d like to get down to the much more basic topic of, why offer Best Offer, and why it’s good for sellers such as myself to monitor the process manually.

1) Best Offer can make a slow day turn strong – if your buyer wheels and deals you and you accept their offer, chances are they’re going to be happy about it, feel common ground with you or at least feel you’re reasonable, and so more offers may come rolling in after that initial acceptance.

Hint: If you happen to be online when the initial offer comes in, don’t answer it immediately. What stands as an unreasonable offer on a single item might look pretty good if the buyer intends to make a dozen similar offers. Shooting them down before you see a potential second offer come in is very likely going to kill the second offer (and beyond) before it even happens. I’d wait ten minutes or so just to make sure nothing else is coming in.

2) Best Offer can turn dead stock. I don’t know about you, but the nature of my niches means that some items sit, sometimes for months, some for years. I’ve pulled out items to list that I used to have on my table at those card shows I’d mentioned earlier … which I haven’t done since 1993. This past week alone I’ve sold multiple similar items to customers which had been in stock each of four months, one year, and 3 years or more. There’s a curve of sorts to my pricing–you might get an item cheap from me right after I list it, but if I have to list it again I tend to get stubborn. After a couple of more months however I’m willing to deal, and the more time that goes by the more I’m willing to deal.

Always remember, the true value of any item is only as much as someone is willing to pay. My vintage widget might start at $10, be relisted at $15, be happily sold for $10 a couple of months after, perhaps $8 a couple months beyond that, or maybe even just $5 if it sits around long enough. You want it? Best Offer is your chance to tell me what you think it’s worth.

Which is why in the end I’ve decided the wheeling and dealing fluctuates too much per item on any given day to set my low price in stone. Now if I have 1,000 brand new identical widgets I’m selling for $10, I may very well need to set that minimum at $7 and never accept a penny under it in order to profit. Vintage and uniques don’t typically work that way. They key part of any transaction remains in your original purchase of the stock, however the nature of vintage and unique goods is that the seller has to rely quite a bit more on instinct because they are the sole judge of value at the time of purchase just as their unique customer becomes that sole judge of value at the time of resale.

Keep your options open with Best Offer.

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  • auctionwally
    Thanks for a great post Cliff. I would have to agree that this is one of eBay's best tools available for sellers.

    Your understanding of how to use this important tool, is matched by your ability and desire to convey that to others.
  • I sell vintage collectibles, and I use Best Offer on all of my store items - hence the name Vintage Goodness Flea Market! I want my store to mirror the experience folks have at a real world flea market, where they can haggle. It works well for me, some folks buy at full price, others send offers.

    I have an auto decline number on the low end, so I don't have to spend time on the seriously low ball offers that come in. I don't have an auto accept set up though, so any offer that is higher I see and can respond to.

    One benefit of this is being able to check a buyer's feedback before I accept an offer - not the feedback they have received (that is all positive, no real info there!) but the feedback they have left for other sellers - that's the important thing. This lets me avoid dealing with buyers who tend to leave a lot of neutrals and negatives - I don't run across many, most eBay buyers are great - but it is nice to be able to know ahead of time who you are dealing with and the Best Offer tool is the only one that really allows you that.

    Anyway, great article Cliff - you and I are definitely on the same page on this one! :)
  • Just a quick note as addition to "best offer" approach.

    In our town, a large B&M antique mall exists, 30,000 sq ft, 125 dealers. Been around since 1990.

    We opened a large antiques store, single owner, 5,000 sq ft.
    Word among all dealers in town (an among another 1500 dealers here in region) was we wouldn't last 6 months (they wished).
    Two years after opening, we purchased our own antique building, renovated it, finished our 3-year lease at first location, and are now set up permanently about 2 blocks from that antique mall.

    Among the reaons for our longevity -- when a customer walks into our store they deal with the owners, descriptions, history, and values are discussed -- but the thing they most often mention to us is they LOVE the store since they can HAGGLE here with us (some call it bargaining - we just call it selling).
    In our minds "haggling" is part and parcel of buying.

    thus our conclusion is B&M store + fixed price = slow sales.
    B&M store + fixed price + Best Offer = better sales.

    We figure online works same way.
    And we would never turn the LOW end offers declined to OFF, we had a case just yesterday where a $5 offer came in for a $37 item, we settled at $28.
  • Hey Vince,

    Thanks for your comment. Just wanted to add that I did start trying out WatchCount last week after seeing your post on it. Obviously too soon for any measurable stats, but this is absolutely a case where I see no downside. I love how you can customize the tool to remain invisible until your item hits "X" number of watchers. Very cool NOT to have that pathetic "0" sitting there on display if someone is interested!

    I hope you checked out the post I linked to from one of my own sites, you'd probably enjoy it--it describes this phenomenon you described "A $50 item receives a $5 best offer on ebay ? not a problem, we turn it around and ask for $43 , if buyer was serious, they come back with $37 -- gotcha, $41." and if I recall correctly mentions a couple of strategies to hook the buyer.

    Thanks again,
    Cliff

    PS: Thanks to you too, John, always trying to be fantastic here :)
  • Hey, John, comments still buggy maybe?
    got twirling wheel for minutes here. unending.
    refreshed page, ended up seeing my post up twice below /Above?

    Please delete one of them... I like to hear myself write, but not that much.

    cheers.
    vince.
  • Someone please remind JOHN just how hard it is to list, describe, photo, upload and sell these single and unique items.
    Someone please remind eBay ust how hard it is to list, describe, photo, upload and sell these single and unique items.

    there now, everyone will be nice to me, cause then they will tell our customers they should be nicer to us when sending in those "lowball" offers.

    Cliff is right on the money here , I agree 100%. The very BEST method of selling online of these type of items is with a fixed price (or "store"), with a best offer option.

    I love how "best offer" puts the seller and buyer back at the table to haggle -- that is 90% of the antiques and vintage business. We all buy at differing prices, and sell at what works into our market.

    A $50 item receives a $5 best offer on ebay ? not a problem, we turn it around and ask for $43 , if buyer was serious, they come back with $37 -- gotcha, $41.

    But, that all depends on the day, busy day online or in store might mean we're firm on price, slow day, maybe not, tired of item, maybe accept lowball... whatever we feel like. It's almost as much fun as auctions online for us.

    I think without a mechanism for Best Offer, we would not use any venue for sales.

    We also found out if you combine Best Offer with the watchers showing (use watchcount.com) it adds to the pleasure.
    See our listing at http://bit.ly/aRUCd

    Imagining a buyer squirm when they know 4 people are watching the item makes them rethink a lowball offer, and if you wait a bit, they become much happier to at least hear your counter offer.

    It's all fun and games, isn't it?
  • Someone please remind JOHN just how hard it is to list, describe, photo, upload and sell these single and unique items.
    Someone please remind eBay ust how hard it is to list, describe, photo, upload and sell these single and unique items.

    there now, everyone will be nice to me, cause then they will tell our customers they should be nicer to us when sending in those "lowball" offers.

    Cliff is right on the money here , I agree 100%. The very BEST method of selling online of these type of items is with a fixed price (or "store"), with a best offer option.

    I love how "best offer" puts the seller and buyer back at the table to haggle -- that is 90% of the antiques and vintage business. We all buy at differing prices, and sell at what works into our market.

    A $50 item receives a $5 best offer on ebay ? not a problem, we turn it around and ask for $43 , if buyer was serious, they come back with $37 -- gotcha, $41.

    But, that all depends on the day, busy day online or in store might mean we're firm on price, slow day, maybe not, tired of item, maybe accept lowball... whatever we feel like. It's almost as much fun as auctions online for us.

    I think without a mechanism for Best Offer, we would not use any venue for sales.

    We also found out if you combine Best Offer with the watchers showing (use watchcount.com) it adds to the pleasure.
    See our listing at http://bit.ly/aRUCd

    Imagining a buyer squirm when they know 4 people are watching the item makes them rethink a lowball offer, and if you wait a bit, they become much happier to at least hear your counter offer.

    It's all fun and games, isn't it?
  • john
    Cliff, that is FANTASTIC insight sir. Thank you for posting that man.

    John (ColderICE)
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